Tears of a Clown

by Scarlett on January 17, 2010 · Comments

in Popped Culture

I'm With Coco

And so it goes.

On January 22nd, we’re poised to lose Conan O’Brien as a fixture of late-night television – at least for a time, if NBC’s proposed contract settlement is carried out. (It’s been said that they’ll ban Conan from hosting a new show for anywhere from 1-1/2 to over 3 years, evil bastards.) It’s a poignant thing, what feels like an end of an era. After all, Late Night With Conan O’Brien debuted when I was just entering the 8th grade, and I remember it being a minor mark of bad-assery if you were able to sneak out and watch it after your parents went to bed. (Hey, this was 1993. No one had the internet and we took our small rebellions where we could get them!)

Myself, I didn’t really discover my interest in the show until the late ’90s, when I was a little more worldly and appreciative of the ribald humor. And even though he’s 17 years my senior, Conan always felt like that massively cool (yet utterly dorky) older brother who was whip-smart, humorously self-deprecating, and would do just about anything for a laugh. And it was that perfect blend of brilliance and dweebery that made him so endearing to so many in my generation. You know, my grandparents always preferred David Letterman. My parents were occasional watchers of Jay Leno. But Conan – he belonged to us. We of the “X and Y” generations – the ones who prefer our humor with an equal dash of snark and smarts, and an extra dose of jackassery. And what can I say? I feel an especial kinship to the man, given that we’re both tall, Irish gingers who are practically translucent. ;-)

Heh … I just re-read what I wrote and it almost sounds like I’m giving a eulogy. But it doesn’t feel so far from the mark. Honestly, I never thought The Tonight Show was right for Conan. It was too steeped in certain expectations and traditions – and above all else, too damn early in the schedule. Talk about crampin’ mah style! After all, Late Night was the reliable show you could turn on after a night of watching bad movies over beers with good friends. It was just late enough to fall asleep to, and just early enough so you could watch the whole thing and still have hope for a reasonable amount of sleep before an early morning class or commute. While Conan certainly had the moxie to reinvigorate The Tonight Show back to its Carson-esque glory, who knows if it would have worked out – even had dumb ol’ Leno actually retired as promised.

Speaking of which, many people are looking to Leno as the bad guy in this equation, and I’m not sure what I feel. It was a shitty stunt to pull – to decide in 2008 that instead of moving on, he’d start hosing his own talk show as a lead-in to the Conan-helmed Tonight Show. But I suppose we can’t fault him completely for the abysmal ratings that his 10pm spin-off received, which effectively led to a domino effect against the rest of the late-night lineup. Still, why is NBC being Leno’s bitch? Why are they so dead-set on keeping him happy? Why not put him on a six month hiatus and see if Conan’s ratings improved without Leno mucking up the lead-in? It seems like so much could have been done without resorting to NBC’s attempts to “demote” Conan to his previous time-slot. I agree with his statement – which I’ve heard had Conan in tears while writing it – in which he asserted that changing The Tonight Show’s format and schedule would effectively destroy the show. It could have been heading for destruction (maybe even cancellation) anyway, but Conan is a resilient fellow who pulled Late Night out of creative and ratings-based slumps before. I’ll bet he could have done it again. But I guess now we’ll never know.

So I’m with Coco – whatever that means, at this point. Boycotting Jay Leno? No problem, I never watch him to begin with. But what’s left to do? Hope that Conan finds a loophole in the settlement that would maybe permit him to produce a web-based show until the dust settles? It could be a brilliant maneuver, and I’m sure that sites like Funny Or Die would love to partner with him to produce something groundbreaking and awesome. I guess we’ll just have to wait to see. But one thing’s for certain … The jolly red giant may be lost, but not gone forever.

  • aaronodeneau
    i enjoyed leno on occation but conan was my first real love of late night. i remember the premeire episode as if it was just yesterday where conan beat out a frog and a stapler to host late night. him and andy were always on spot for me and the guests really connected with conan. i'm with conan and do i watch the tonight show no.
  • I see myself as Team Both. It was NBC's call, but either way both men stand to make a fortune from some generous contracts. I'm more concerned for the staff and bands.
  • Conan is awesome. It sucks that they are doing that to him!
  • GonzoLink
    It really is a sad state of affairs all around. I don't watch Late Night TV anymore (or TV at all for that matter) but I always did feel like I was suffering through Leno for the most part to get to Conan (as were my parents, my Mom CAN'T STAND Leno). It does seem weird that NBC is trying to do what they can to make Leno happy, although that probably has to do with the fact that The Tonight Show dropped something like 2 million viewers when Conan took over. Oh well, nothing more to say other than that it just stinks...
  • I really think a lot of that drop in ratings was caused by Leno. People might say "wait a minute, Leno was always the lead-in to Conan's show before - what's the difference?" But that time shift really did change a lot, and who the hell puts a talk-show at 10pm up against primetime dramas? It was just a failure of an idea all-around.
  • you know I never did get around to watching his previous late night show (it was on too late and I wasn't really that brave in my childhood). But from the bits and pieces I've seen of him I like his humor. Even if I hated him though there is no reason for NBC to be such idiots about this.
  • Diggerjohn111
    I'll never forget the episodes where Conan came up here to Ontario. He laughed at us, we laughed at him, we laughed together. His stop at the Border Crossing only a few km from my house, dressed as a Mountie, was possibly the funniest sketch I have ever seen on TV (pulling people over to check to see if they had beer, and then drinking it on them.). He is irreverent, a bit risque at times, but unlike Letterman and Leno, he is never afraid to truly laugh at himself. Conan is the one genuine late night host.
  • MFlorian
    Who's up for a rousing rendition of "Oh Danny Boy" while raising a toast to ol' Conan? Seriously, that did sound a bit like a Eulogy. Still, I'm sure he would appreciate your warm sentiments...and the warm breath on his car window while you draw a little heart on it.

    I wonder if he'll do birthday parties now.
  • Haha! I would totally stalk Conan. Be his female doppelganger bodyguard. ;-)

    I'm just pissed that I didn't get to see a live taping. A friend of mine went during the first week and said it was a blast. *Sad Panda*
  • pushinguproses
    That makes me so completely sad...is there a particular reason as to why they will ban him for an undetermined period of time if he attempts hosting another show?
  • I believe it's akin to a non-compete agreement - like if you're a chef for one restaurant and your employment contract has a non-compete clause, you can't immediately seek work at a new place if you decide to quit. That prevents people from job-hopping or threatening to seek new employment if they don't get better wages.
  • I like Conan. He's not just the funniest guy on late night TV, he reminds me of the kind of quirky, offbeat talk show host that David Letterman used to be. When I heard he was getting the Tonight Show, I smiled. He earned it and was probably just the guy to save it from Jay Leno's brand of vanilla comedy.

    Then Conan was host and all was good. Or so we thought...

    While Conan has been smiling and making jokes through this whole thing, you can tell that deep down, he's hurting. He has the gig that every talk show hosts dream of. And it's being taken away from him by someone who hasn't accepted the fact that he's had his time and he needs to move on. Jay Leno had a nice long run. He should have taken a cue from Johnny Carson and retired gracefully.

    And it's not live Conan's been doing a bad job either. He's just as funny and entertaining as ever. So it just makes his inevitable dethroning even more unfair. Sure there's the rating issue, but Leno'
    s ratings weren't that great at first either. It wasn't until two years later that he started beating Letterman in the ratings. Conan was only given seven months.

    I've heard people argue, "How can people even care about Conan O'Brien when there's a lot of people currently out of work in this economy?" Sure, it's unlikely that we'll be seeing Conan on the streets of Hollywood telling jokes for spare change. I've felt the sting of economy myself. I've been laid off of two jobs in the past 15 months (The second happened just a week after I was officially hired). So why does someone in my situation care? Two reason: 1) In tough times like this, we rely on entertainment, comedy included, to lift out spirits. 2) I know all too well what it's like to be a really hard worker who takes his job seriously and ends up losing it anyway.

    In the end, I think Leno's gonna suffer for this. While it looks like he may get his show it, it's gonna be under pretty tainted circumstances. He's got no real supporters outside of a handful of NBC execs. Can he find an audience who doesn't have a bad taste in their mouths from all this? I never liked Leno before, but he looks even more pathetic now. He's like that aging athlete who won't accept the fact that his glory days are over. I'm sure Conan will get a new show on another network, but it won't be the Tonight Show.

    Between the dual with Letterman in the early 90's and this current situation, I'm guessing Leno must have something big to blackmail NBC with.

    Interestingly, Howard Stern kinda predicted this four years ago:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxcAAb60lik

    This Bill Hicks bit is also kinda timely again (dated pop culture references notwithstanding):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfkvpcjNk7c&feat...
  • "I never liked Leno before, but he looks even more pathetic now. He's like that aging athlete who won't accept the fact that his glory days are over."

    Perfectly said, Jeff. From what I understand, Leno was supposed to retire from television (or hosting, at least) completely and just up and changed his mind. But retirement isn't like buyer's remorse - you shouldn't be able to "take it back" if you realize that you'd rather stick around a while longer. Not at the expense of someone like Conan, who had been providing The Tonight Show with an excellent, well-respected and well-loved lead out show for 16 years.

    I guess we'll see what happens. Leno seems to be taking it on the chin (and a massive one, at that!) but who knows what will happen down the road. I just wish NBC would have had Conan's back instead. Cancel Leno, dammit! The man had his day - time to move on.
  • bethanythemartian
    From what I understand, Conan is getting $30 mil to walk, because the NBC suits say that the Tonight Show doesn't have a guaranteed time slot, while Leno's time slot was actually contractually obligated (Conan actually should be getting closer to $50 mil). If Conan finds work in the next year, NBC won't have to pay him all of the money most likely, it's a play or pay kind of deal.

    The problem is, even if Conan gets hired right away it'll probably take 6 months to a year to get a show produced and on the air, and he could lose a bit of his fan base by then. I hope that he does an internet thing, even something short like Penn Jillette's Penn Says, in between to keep people interested.
  • I'll have to check out Penn Says, being a big fan of Penn & Teller's Bullshit and all.

    Having Conan off the air for a minimum 6 months, as you said, is a depressing thought. People stand behind him now, but we're often fickle by nature and who knows if he'll get the ratings he deserves if he gets picked up elsewhere? The idea of seeing him on Fox is an intriguing one though. Does Fox even have any late-night talk shows?
  • bethanythemartian
    I dunno, but fox execs early in the brouhaha started making big noises about Conan right away, and Conan has a lot of public support, with all the rallies and what-not.

    The lead-in is King, in late night TV, and the NBC execs should know that that's really the problem with the ratings on the Tonight Show- his lead-in is Jay Leno, who also knows that lead-ins are king. Howard Stern thinks that Leno did this on purpose, but from what I understand Stern has a deep and abiding hatred of Jay Leno. I think it's mostly regarding the original late night drama, back when Letterman left NBC, but I don't know enough to be sure.

    The real Irony is that this was all done in order to prevent the kind of drama and bad feelings and so forth that it has caused.
  • "Does Fox even have any late-night talk shows?"

    Well, there was Chevy Chase in the early 90's. I don't blame you for not remembering. Most people prefer to block out traumatic experiences.
  • Always been a fan of both guys and this whole crap with what's going on is ridiculous. Got into Conan when I saw him do those interviews with celebrities mouths cut out, the mascots like masturbating bear & vomitting kermit, and SAT analogies. Also him being good friends with John Tesh and using the NBA on NBC theme for It's Wonderful Life is what sold me.

    With Jay, always liked headlines and Jay-walking. Plus it was great to see him and Kev get into the ring for WCW's Road Wild back in the day. He seems like a classy guy and I'm sorry to see him being tarnished in this mess.

    From the way I understand all this, Jay Leno was leaving the Tonight Show but was still under contract with NBC so that Jay wouldn't go off to another network somewhere so they gave him another show and gave Conan his spot. However, people don't like or care for his show at the 10pm slot and now NBC is caught between a rock and a hard place. So they're going with the guy that's gotten them ratings over many years rather than the "rookie" Conan and bumping him to the curb instead of that piece of shit Fallon. Therefore, NBC's the bad guy not Leno, that's the way I see/understand it. So basically, NBC didn't want to "Letterman" Leno like they did with Letterman back in the '90s so instead, they're "Letterman'ing" Conan.

    I don't watch a lot of TV nowadays because it's nothing but utter crap on. Especially with whatever dretch the major networks, like NBC, are putting on the air. So of course they're not going to side with the fans and give them what they want. We'll probably eventually be stuck with "The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon" "Late Night with Carson Daly" and "Are you still watching this? with Chevy Chase" I think Conan has a large enough fanbase that if he's on a forced hiatus for a year or so, people will still remember them (especially if late night ratings for NBC tank.) and would love to see him go to FOX, he'd fit in well over there.

    In conclusion, whatever NBC does on the late night schedule after the Olympics (which I never watch) won't matter to me because I won't watch it. If Conan is struggling with money, I hope he either finds a loophole with his contract or lands some kind of internet gig and gets out of there immediately. If the comcast deal hasn't gone through yet, I hope they revamp everything and make NBC suck less.
  • queenanthai
    There was a short-lived comic called ANIMA in the 90s. Issue #11 had Conan O'Brien help save the world against an evil dream creature and was subsequently elected president. You'd've loved it.
  • Ha! That's pure brilliance! =)

    One of my favorite non-Late Show Conan moments was his opening sketch when he hosted the Primetime Emmys a few years ago. He ran through the sets of various NBC shows (my favorite being when he popped through the ceiling of The Office) and much hilarity ensued. Damn you, NBC!
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